Did you ever feel like?

[Lisa]

People only want you when they want you, like it's a convenience for them? To heck with how you feel, it's on their part and you have to accept it cuz they don't want you any other time so you have to go with it cuz you need to be wanted and appreciated even if you know it's not how it should really be..
Did you ever try and try to please someone and do a nice thing and find out that it was just useless to try cuz it really wasn't appreciated at all..
Well I think I have come a long way through the years and all the bs from a select few maybe 2 or 3, lost count.. Anyway, I know how I am now and I will not shed one tear for anyone anymore, I am me, take it or leave it.. A good person with a good heart who tries to help others out anyway I can but I guess things like that doesn't matter much anymore cuz it doesn't get you anywhere..
This is a random thing, anyone else ever feel this way?

[DEE]

Lisa, yes, unfortunately I think everyone has felt this way sometime in their lives. You are right as you get older you do mature and "wise up" a bit on who REALLY is a friend and who is just there for a need. Most people with a good heart...which you definetly do have...tend to get taken avantage of at sometime. If a friendship is only offered at the other persons convience than it probably isn't really a friendship worth having. I have many friends that I have not really talked with in a while but yet we will always be friends because we do for each other always! Sounds like you are having a rough time and if you ever need to talk you have e-mail, I will send you privately my IM name and home phone. For all you do for everyone on this board I would be honored to help YOU out if you ever need anything. I am a good listener!
take "Cher" always, DEE

[Susanelizabeth28]

Unfortunately, Lisa there are people like that.
The thing you have to learn is how to spot people and their motives. There are a few people I know are nice to me because they are after my job where I work. This one person and I get along well, but I know I have to watch what I say around them because they are an extreme opportunist. Every time they come in the office their eyes are all over my desk and the Executive Director's desk. It's very blatant. a number of other people have noticed it too. This person even tries to invite themselves out with one of my best friends and I when we go walking. Normally I would welcome another person along, but my friend and I know the person's motive.
You have to strike a balance with people like this and the people you are apparently dealing with. You can be friendly with them, but they are not the person you put your trust in.
If you need to talk let me know. You know my email and I think you have my phone number too.
Take Care,
Susan

[Harmony86]

Yep, I've felt this way a lot in my life, Lisa. I still feel like this a lot of the time. It's hard to know sometimes if people are really there for you, or if they are just out to get you. I've had many people come into my life that I thought were really good friends, only to learn that wasn't the case. Growing up, I never had many friends, I was never the popular one at school, I was taller than everyone else, I was more mature for my age, my reading and writing skills were above all my classmates (and believe it or not, those were all "bad" things in the eyes of my peers). ...so I longed to have a friend or two in my life, and when someone would come along and be nice to me, I'd become friends with them, even when I knew they were using me. I guess I somehow thought that I could change them, or maybe get them to really like me as a friend. I don't know. But I've learned a lot since those days, and I dont' let those people bring me down. They aren't worth it. Life is confusing to me a lot of the time, but I've come to the conclusion that there is no one simple answer to all the questions I have about it.

I recently made a huge personal decision to tell my family (or atleast my sister and parents) something about myself that has been weighing on my shoulders for a very long time. It was not at all easy, but I got through it. I have a couple of 'close' friends, but they have never been in my shoes and just don't understand at all how I feel. Maybe it's selfish of me, but I guess sometimes I just wish someone would take the time to be understanding and atleast make an attempt to really show they care. I have many faults of my own; I'm not trying to day I don't, but I feel like I always try to go out of my way for people and try to picture myself if I was in their shoes and how I would be feeling.

Ok....I rambled on and on, and I have no idea what my point of any of that was. But, anyway, just know that I am also here for you Lisa...and you aren't alone. I hate to know you are feeling this way, and really do wish there was some way of me fixing it. You have my email if you ever want to talk. I will try to be on AOL more often when I can, too, so we can talk if you'd like. I've missed you and a chat is long overdue!

You will get through this...you are a very special person and I for one wish there were more Lizza pizza's in the world! It would make things so much nicer.

Take Care,

Julie

[Jan]

For the "most" part I have been pretty blessed w/friends by me..all thru growing up the ppl I went to school with from my o'l Brooklyn NY days to Jr High days to High School days to College days to several jobs/ppl I have have met..Ppl thru Cher stuff over the yrs (since like the 70s and on)...Been real lucky for the most part w/that thank god..Friends I grew up with and have known I have been really lucky with:) Just as of recent my local buds are jealous of me spending so much time w/my Cher buds but they know how much it means to me:) ..they all hate Cher here:( ...But they know when Cher stuff goes on..OK Jan is gone till it's over! LOL..now they're dyin she's returning to Las Vegas next yr already! LOL..Ppl who unfortunately don't follow Cher just don't get it u know? LOL..Only ppl I am real leary of like Sue had mentioned is some of the ppl I work with..nice to your face but creeps behind ur backs types..not all ..work with some really nice ppl..but then there are those lovely few u gotta be alert with! ..At least in LI area anyways..when I worked in Manhattan was tight w/everyone from the receptionist to the president of the company..Manhattan/NYC ppl more grounded and down to earth as opposed to LI crew..no wonder most of my local buds are all "originally" from Bklyn or Queens like me! LOL..And the ones from LI that I'm friends with who grew up here..I've been real lucky with..they're great and I wouldn't trade em for anything:) We're all adults now but still feel like kids:)

[Lisa]

Thank you girls for saying such sweet things about me, I really appreciate that..
I try my best but seems things will never change, you know but I am Strong Enough to muddle through, I hope..

[DEE]

Well, just remember that you have lots of good friends here, that are always willing to listen and help!
DEE

[ReachTheStars]

MWAH BABY!! Well said...and it never ends Honey!! It's called "user city"...just spot 'em..know 'em...remember 'em...then FORGET THEM!! A Waste of Freakin' Energy...keep the "positive flow a goin' " Love! CUZ YOU ROCK!!

It's funny, you and I just talked about this two months ago, remember? But I'm right here for ya Buddy...freakin' buried with piles of paper, bills galore, cher stuff everywhere and my house a total unorganized mess...but I"m here for ya honey!! LOL...I still haven't had time to unpack my Marco Luggage..LMAO...OK ..now I'm singin..."a ballgame we will go...a ballgame we will go..HI HO THE MERRY OH...ANOTHER BALL GAME WE WILL GO!!" I'm getting splinters on my A$$!!

[Lisa]

Yea I remember love but it's sort of different circumstances now.. I know you are also always there for me even if we are not in the same state..
LMAO so much at splinters, really made me crack up, LOL.. You are so cool, love ya to pieces..

[Jan]

Move to NYC buddy! u got lotsa love in the Big Apple:)

[Debelieves]

We love ya, Lisa!!!!! ;D

Debbie

[Lisa]

Well sure do need the LOVE, I tell ya!!!!! Sometimes just don't feel it man!!!
Loser city here and other places I know..
Here's the joke of the day, was asked out twice by the same guy to go to the movies, finally said yes tonight and he goes, you got any money? HUH YEA RIGHT!!!! Not paying for any man, no way!!! Screw that bs, now my phone is off the hook for awhile, he just won't stop calling me, damm can't take it!!!!

[Jan]

He asked u out but asked u to pay?? Ummm I think not..here's the door buddy!

[Lisa]

Yep he did.. I was as h e l l.. LOL LOSER!!!

[Debelieves]

Lisa, you've got to be kidding me, right?? Time to "show him the curb" and if he can't see it, maybe I'll borrow that baseball bat Di used this winter to beat up her ice patch with and show him exactly where that curb is!

Lotsa love for you hear in NJ, too!

Debbie

[Jan]

Lisa Susan..u guys are not that far from NY..why don't u come for the day for the July 23rd gathering maybe?

[Lisa]

OMC Debbie I just LMAO with that!!! Di's bat, LOL, yes that would be a good one, LMAO!!!!
Thing is I didn't even have a date with him yet, went to see him and caught up on old times and now he is getting to be a big pest!!! Then when he sprung that on me, oh boy, I think my temper shot right through the ceiling, LOL..

[Susanelizabeth28]

jan said:

Lisa Susan..u guys are not that far from NY..why don't u come for the day for the July 23rd gathering maybe?

I would love to, but that is closing night of Hello, Dolly! and as director I really should be there. Hopefully next time!
Susan

[Jan]

Oops that's right u did tell me that Sue..sorry! LOL..what about u Lisa? COME!

[Lisa]

I have been thinking about this, depends on the money but I'm off and couldn't stay really long..
Are we still gonna do the fall one? Cuz then I am bringing my buddy along.. I think Di and Yvette liked one for the fall and I also love the fall weather..

[Debelieves]

Come Lisa, even if it's just for the day! I can meet you at the bus station - I know exactly where it is now, right, Jan? It's not a very long ride from your area to hear, piece of cake!

You never know, we could get some not-too-hot days in July, it's happened before.

Some day, Susan, hopefully not too far into the future, we'll get that chance to say hello in person. I'm sorry you won't be able to come, but, you should be at the theater for closing night. Break a leg!

Debbie

[Jan]

yea Lisa check ur schedule..there's a bus that goes right to PT Authority from ur area and worse comes to worse I KNOW there's a bus from Reading that does cos I did..was mega fast!!!! And lands right there..that's where Deb comes in..we'll meet ya right at station and take u back to ur bus on way back

[Lisa]

I'm 90% there, LOL...

[Jan]

Oh kewl Lisa:) yea I did it myself from Reading and it was so easy..no time at all..went quick w/my cher cds:) and the bus takes ya right back too..I remember from reading they had real frequent schedules goin like every hr too:) SO go for it:)

[Lisa]

I am 100% there now.. Have off and I need this trip big time!!!! ;D Miss my buds so much and need a break from PA..
Anyone gonna stay over the night? I am so excited, finally a place that I have always wanted to get too, I am going!!! ;D

[Jan]

Di and Denise are staying over..u may as well cher a room w/Di Lisa stay over and go back Sun:) WOO HOO..wow started off small now so many coming:) YEAH.. can't wait to see everyone..PLS DRESS cool it's HOT HOT HOT here..and pls note: to those not coming now (cos a lot can't due to cher brokeness I FEEL ur pain guys I can make this one cos I live here thank god..)we're having another around xmas time I am sure:) That one will prob be bigger cos hopefully more will be outta debts by then..unless Cher schedules the Wynn! LOL..Can't wait to see ya all:) YEAH

[Lisa]

Alot of fun gonna happen for sure Jan!!!
Sounds great but I wouldn't want to impose on Di..
And no clue on what rooms would cost..

[Lisa]

Can you believe this nut is still calling me!!! Told him off Sunday night so he calls back again Monday night..
He says so don't you even wanna be friends, DUH!!! I said no I don't, he says ok then I will stop calling you then, YEA RIGHT!!!! Thank god for id man!!!!
So then he says, have a nice life then, I said yea you too, LOL..
I have been trying to get out the bad and keep with all the good, can't wait for NYC, 25 days and counting!!!! Have to get away for sure..

[Harmony86]

That sucks Lisa...but you have the right attitude...don't let any of them get to you!

So I was really thinking this July NYC trip would be a blast (as I'm sure it will be), but since I can't convince any of my friends to go with me and since I'm not exactly rich at the present time, I think I will have to opt for the Winter gathering. ...that will give me more time to save up and maybe by then I will have made some friends at College ?

But we'll see...I haven't decided on anything for sure yet.

Julie

P.S.- I had the craziest dream last night...it included a lot of the Cher gang, and we were in NYC. I can't remember exactly who was in it, but I do remember Jan, and I think Gabby, oh yeah and Megen (JPSkyeBlue)...and I almost think Lisa was in it, too. Anyway, you were all in a big van and told me to hop in...all the seats were taken, so I had to sit on the floor by the door. it's funny what we dream about!

[Lisa]

Oh Julie, don't be like I used to be and depend on people, it won't get you anywhere, swear it.. I used to be like that which prob everyone knows by now..
You can't depend on anyone but yourself especially those friends from what you tell me..
I am going alone for the first time at 34 yrs old, now dammit that's bad!!!
I sure don't have the money either, that's why it would be so much better to split the room.. And the bus wont be that bad with a portable cd player, which I am gonna get, a cheap one, since my other one broke.. That will pass the time plus looking at all that passes by.. It will go by in no time, really..
Count on you and that's it.. Took my all these years to figure that out..