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Post by ReachTheStars on Aug 29, 2005 7:46:18 GMT -5
Awww Tim that would be sooo cool! Download it ...PLEASE BUDDY!! I NEVER got to see her collection!! Always loved her drawings..man that girl was something!! INCREDIBLE ARTIST...what talent..and such a gift to all of us....her poems were awesome too!! Yeah Susan..her sense of humor ROCKED! She would have me laughing soooo hard at that sarcasm of hers!! OMG!! God I miss her...
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Post by Jan on Sept 5, 2005 16:38:29 GMT -5
Was in my car today and heard Barry Manilow's "Cobacapana" song as they were doing tunes from a certain yr for the holiday today..anyways..after the song was over the DJ gave a big shout out to the ppl who run the "BARRY MANILOW FAN CLUB" so I was interested cos we all know how Cher's fan club is..WOW..I gotta commend the ppl who run HIS fan club boy..they raised like over $150,000 in such a short time for the hurricane victims and I think they said that Barry Manilow then matched it.. Kudos to a fan club run so nicely..I don't really follow Manilow although I do like a lot of his songs ..but that's a fan club to really be commended boy! Good job in case any of u are mbrs in his club ! Says a lot don't it?
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Post by Susanelizabeth28 on Sept 5, 2005 19:38:16 GMT -5
And you would feel confident in trusting that the people who run HIS fan club would actually get the money to the right place too. Way to go Barry and Company! Susan
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Post by Jan on Sept 6, 2005 5:42:24 GMT -5
LOL. Good point there Sue! LOL..
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Post by erickholland on Sept 6, 2005 14:09:43 GMT -5
Is there's a way to let us or others take over her fanclub? Because I keep hearing stories, and the fanclub is REALLY bad from what I've heard.
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Post by Susanelizabeth28 on Sept 6, 2005 14:59:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately the people Cher has overseeing the people who run the fan club have done nothing to take care of this problem. And let me state for the record I DO NOT THINK Cher would be happy if she knew no one was taking care of this problem. While I think there are a few fans that are capable of running a fair and unbiased club I would love to see a professional company take over the fan club. That way all fans would be the same and there would be no fear in the same thing happening again (This current group is comprised of fans, although they are in it only for themselves). There are those of us that would be capable of being "there for the fans", but to have a professional group run the club would remove any chance of the fans that would try to be in charge to reap benefits only for themselves. And let me say that I am not referring to anyone here wanting to be in it for themselves. This group here is a very kind hearted group and anyone who reads or posts at this board on a regular basis is well aware of the goodness that flows thru the people here. #cloud9# Just wanted to clarify that. #action-smiley-057# Susan
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Post by Jan on Sept 6, 2005 17:08:13 GMT -5
Yeah I think the company Dave suggested would have been perfect..but they are not hearing of it..lord knows why..Shame really is..Maybe we can get the Manilow ppl to help out! LOL
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Post by mucher1 on Sept 7, 2005 5:25:53 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more with what Susan just said. Unfortunately, I don't think an alternative to the current fan club staff will be considered before it becomes a financial liability.
-Mark
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Post by Susanelizabeth28 on Sept 7, 2005 7:10:45 GMT -5
Now it's my turn to agree with Mark. I just wish they knew what the fan club has done to eat away at what some people think Cher thinks of her fans. You have a lot of people who know the people who run her fan club are allowed to get away with using all the perks themselves and making money from tickets etc. Some people unfortunately equate this behavior with Cher allowing it, and this reflects poorly on her. She is way above their behavior and needs to get someone (instead of the current people running the club) to be the liason on the "fan level" that will represent her in a way that reflects HER standards, not the standards of a corrupt group out to make money for themselves and always use all the best tickets for themselves (and broker many of the rest for profit). And after the whole brokering the tickets thing it SHOULD have become a "financial liability". Susan
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Post by Jan on Sept 7, 2005 19:03:38 GMT -5
One word re: your post Sue.." B R A V O " I got several emails and calls from ppl who are "afraid" to post what u typed and the world of diehards my friend are commending u girl trust me! U speak for the masses:) U my friend would run one terrific fan club girl! No doubt!
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Post by Susanelizabeth28 on Sept 9, 2005 9:59:29 GMT -5
Thanks Jan. That's sweet of you to say. I think it would be great to have the chance for us to run a club the way it SHOULD be run (You know, represent Cher in a potistive light, be helpful to fans, etc.) But ultimately I know we would also be thrilled just to be able to join a professionally run club knowing it was a club that would be run above board and that we felt safe joining. Susan #nature-smiley-001#
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Post by Jan on Sept 10, 2005 2:32:52 GMT -5
I think an outside source like Dave suggested would be the best source basically..too bad it'll never happen..Cher's fans deserve it! And Cher deserves to be in a better light w/regards to her website and fan club! Gosh I hear Madonna's website and club is awesome
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Post by erickholland on Sept 11, 2005 16:43:50 GMT -5
Yeah I heard that too. I just can't believe why Cher's is so bad!!
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Post by Jan on Sept 11, 2005 18:53:58 GMT -5
U got that right Erick! Especially for someone of Cher's stardom too boot..Was talkin to my buddy Sheri before and her husband follows the Stones the way we do Cher and gosh she was telling me all the stuff he gets thru the club..It's crazy..the Rolling Stones are HUGE if they can do it so can Cher..he pays $100 for membership and granted it's steep but many of my friends who are in OTHER artists fan clubs pay $75-100 range too but crap u should see all they get boy....It's worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by erickholland on Sept 11, 2005 19:01:38 GMT -5
Exactly, and THAT'S exactly why i can't believe Cher's fanclub is runned by a bunch of fools. It really makes me upset. Because like you said Jan; other fanclubs are so cool! And it's NOT that I want to join a fanclub just to get cool stuff from them, because I can also buy that on Ebay, but it's just that Cher's one ought to be so great as well. She is one of the GREATEST artists in the world with a carreer spanning over 40 years. It really is a shame; such a bad "fanclub". I bet that if Dori or Jennifer would run it; it would be AWESOME!
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Post by Jan on Sept 11, 2005 19:08:41 GMT -5
Oh I agree Erick!!!!!!!!!!!! Dori would run a rockin fan club..yea prob even Jen I met her a few times in NY..Anyone whose directly connected to Cher..or a prof'l company like Dave suggested I think is perfect..honestly if u look at some other artists websites and then even Chers!!!!!!!!! that too really could use some help..I mean check out other artists websites..some are really creative and incredible..Just feel like others that Cher deserves better from both ends..Cher sells out friggin Wembley Stadium overseas..she sells out MSG here in NY..she sells out the Hollywood Bowl..she's won the friggin academy award and Grammy award..she's an incredible worldwide SUPERSTAR..I can't believe she don't have a professional fan club? I don't get it! I really don't..she's C H E R not a has been 70s or 80s star..she's CHER ...the MEGASTAR since the 60s for god's sake!!!!!!!!! LOL..Just scary
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Post by Susanelizabeth28 on Sept 11, 2005 22:05:18 GMT -5
Adding to the list #action-smiley-057# Paula Betts, and I agree I bet Dori isn't aware of all the crap that goes on. She seems the type that would have said "Cher, do you know what's going on?". She is such a great choreographer, though - she will be keeping herself busy for years with that whole dance thing. #star# The question would be who among them IS aware of the crap and has said nothing? That's a kind of rhetorical question, I don't really expect an answer. Susan
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Post by ReachTheStars on Sept 11, 2005 22:43:07 GMT -5
They are aware of it guys...they've been told...all of them ... and umteen times...over and over again ... but no one wants to deal with it...or they don't see it happening...sorry, but it's a fact Jack...and it's our tremendous loss.. Cher doesn't have the time for it...and no one wants to mess with it...it is such a shame too...We have our own Fan Club guys...and it's the best Club to have!! RIGHT HERE BABY! RIGHT HERE!
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Post by Jan on Sept 12, 2005 5:55:03 GMT -5
Unfortunately speaking on behalf of the EAST Coast Cher diehards no:( Cos we're all in broker debt up our butts cos Cher has no real fan club:( It's all fixed out here too boot..as far as friendships and a great board and group of Cher fans yes..but seeing what OTHER artists fan clubs offer..the newsletters..the promos..the memorabilia..and for those that were even in prior CHER'S FRIENDS fan clubs and all..this one NOT even close..Stephanie I see just complained just recently on Michael's Big Yahoo list only just the other day how she sent her membership monies got basically NOTHING and and can't even access the board..she's a friggin mbr..not sure whose on big yahoo list too? it's nuts and unheard of in OTHER fan clubs of OTHER artists! Really is..as for Paulette met her at the L Hurts tour..got hugs and she even signed my program so nicely too..just a sweetheart then my friend Sandy and I relunk up w/her again at Cher's tour at MSG and gosh she was just the nicest but I heard although they still talk they had a slight falling out! I know someone who knows Paulette's sister..they are still friends though..But yea she or Dori would ROCK in the job but again Dave's I think would be best an OUTSIDE source!!!!!!!!!! Shame Cher's camp does not want to be bothered I really don't think Cher knows the EXTENT if u know what I mean..her camp has been told this and that and made it sound like some of her long time fans are crap and it's a shame and if Cher honestly knew the EXTENT I don't think it would be the same..Remember Pam's o'l saying "MORALS"... LOL. (DR PHIL INTERVIEW)!! U GO PAM!
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Post by erickholland on Sept 12, 2005 15:32:17 GMT -5
GOD don't even get me started about the poor Cher.com site...... if ONE site is BAD it's cher.com. It's the MOST visited and main website of Cher. It's such a SHAME. I mean; just give the discography a hit; it only contains Believe, Not Com and Living Proof. A crying shame! (That's also one of the reasons why I wrote that discography of Cher. It contains EVERY song she has ever put out). But mr. CherAdmin wasn't interested. Anyway, next to that; NO news, NO updates about the Vegas rumours, NO nothing. When Justplaincher.COM wasn't re-done untill a year ago, THAT was the site who had ALL the info. Every album was listed there, plus tons of info. But unfortunately, this website got flashed down the toilet as well. I don't say that its not good anymore, but all the great info it used to have, is GONE. On the "old" JPC.com you were even able to listen to samples from EVERY cher album. Can't believe it. Too bad I don't know how to build a site, otherwise I would have build one with ALL the necessary info a fan needs to know.
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Post by Jan on Sept 14, 2005 17:08:30 GMT -5
EVERYONE agrees w/ya there Erick..we feel your pain buddy! We do!
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Post by erickholland on Sept 15, 2005 8:31:36 GMT -5
LOL it's not to overreact or anything, but I just don't get the pro's with cher.com and the fanclub. Cher doesn't deserve it.
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Post by Jan on Sept 15, 2005 11:31:44 GMT -5
WE ALL agree w/ya..that's why this thread has OVER 1600 VIEWS my friend..ppl have totally given up and feel nothing was done when our Pam tried for us all and others are afraid to post and tell their individual stories as they feel noone cares since nothing was done..Erick were u around when chertalk was around ? there was like over 500 threads I was told on why isn't the off'l fan club better? Shame..so trust me ur far from alone..Even Ward Lamb posted something on cher.com and he only did linear notes for some of cher's cds and has written published stories on Cher..so trust me ur totally not alone here babe! Far from it!
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Post by erickholland on Sept 15, 2005 14:12:34 GMT -5
Thanks for your great message Jan!! No I don't know what "chertalk" is to be honest. I'm online since fall 1999, and there were some AWESOME Cher-sites back then (how I miss the good old days!) but I think I missed chertalk. What is it exactly?
yeah I know Ward, I love reading his big article in the 3614 Jackson Highway cd booklet. GREAT job!
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Post by Jan on Sept 15, 2005 16:51:16 GMT -5
Susan Dann and or one of these more computer whizzes may still have some of the chertalk posts..was MASSIVE! LOL...yeah I was not online too much then either but heard massively about them! Sad..really is..
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Post by Ci on Sept 18, 2005 22:01:27 GMT -5
Since Cher's management is aware of the fraud going's on past, present, a shady group representing Cher to her fans, and since the many have been very unhappy.Time to remove the 'official' status. And before Cher relaunches her upcoming 2006 album and most likely will be appearing in Las Vegas. If a proper fan club can't be handled. Perhaps the whole idea should be scrapped.
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Post by Susanelizabeth28 on Sept 19, 2005 1:56:09 GMT -5
Since Cher's management is aware of the fraud going's on past, present, a shady group representing Cher to her fans, and since the many have been very unhappy.Time to remove the 'official' status. And before Cher relaunches her upcoming 2006 album and most likely will be appearing in Las Vegas. If a proper fan club can't be handled. Perhaps the whole idea should be scrapped. I have to say I agree with you, Ci. Cher has a very strong fan base. Many of us are sick of the fan club's behavior and stay away from them, but are always ready to support Cher. One of the things the fans want from a fan club is interaction with other fans. Places like CherConnection and other sites like the original Yahoo group have already filled that gap. The ONE other main thing fans are looking for is a chance at great seats. Since many of the "great seats" the fan club got to give out for the last tour (and reportedly possibly previous tours) ended up going directly to brokers to be sold at astronomical prices disbanding the official Cher fan club could actually make more tickets available to the fans. By putting the tickets out on the open market instead of in the hands of the people running the Official Cher Fan Club, those of us buying tickets might actually have a better chance at getting good seats. We know that some of the people running the Official Cher Fan Club showed up at show after show front and center with a few friends that somehow also managed to "get" fan club tickets. Either the official Cher fan club enrollment is actually very small and the tickets not sold to brokers went to the same people a number of times or it was yet more underhandedness. We are all smart enough to realize that if tickets were really given out fairly we would never have seen the same people in the fan club ticket area twice! So yes, I agree. If they won't get reputable people to run the club disband it. We are all Cher fans and don't want an shamefully run club representing us. Susan
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Post by mucher1 on Sept 19, 2005 10:44:31 GMT -5
I hope that someone will be able to present the physical evidence for this trade with fan club tickets to proper authority. Is that realistic?
-Mark
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Post by Susanelizabeth28 on Sept 19, 2005 11:24:51 GMT -5
I believe there is physical evidence in existence. Susan
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Post by Jan on Sept 19, 2005 17:46:42 GMT -5
Yeah we have countless fans that have STUBS reading fan club on them! And their broker receipts (some over a grand for tickets per show)..Trudy even the other wk told me she found some old ones..maybe she can even scan some of those once things ease down w/her sister's tragedy and all..she's one of many though..Yea I agree Ci (Love ur banner by the way! NICE!)better none at all and or Dave's idea I think still is best..a NON fan group to run it is best I think..Just a shame to see how OTHER artists fan clubs are run..and then how Cher's is! Sad...Sheri's husband was just in NYC for the Stones..he gets SOOOOOOOOOOO much..and ppl can't say they are NOT big! LOL..they're the Rolling Stones!..Gosh it's endless how much he gets! And how much notifications and stuff he gets..tons!!!!!!! the works..memorbilia ..tickets..god everything..and OK it's $100 (so are MOST of the WELL run fan clubs I hear..we'd all pay it for sure if she had a good one like that! I hear Whitney's club is $75 and Janet Jackson's about same and Celine's high but u know what? THEY are all run excellent we are told! It's worth it! U get what u pay for ...HITTING ALMOST 1800 VIEWS on this thread Susan!
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